{"id":8120,"date":"2024-04-18T13:38:58","date_gmt":"2024-04-18T11:38:58","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/zydzi-trzemeszno.pl\/?p=8120"},"modified":"2024-07-28T19:07:50","modified_gmt":"2024-07-28T17:07:50","slug":"rozmowa-z-barbara-ciejek-zd-zaparucha","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/zydzi-trzemeszno.pl\/en\/wspolczesnosc\/wspomnienia-mieszkancow\/rozmowa-z-barbara-ciejek-zd-zaparucha\/","title":{"rendered":"Interview with Barbara Ciejek zd. Zaparucha"},"content":{"rendered":"<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" data-elementor-id=\"8120\" class=\"elementor elementor-8120\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-e019d56 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default exad-glass-effect-no exad-sticky-section-no\" data-id=\"e019d56\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-98f4d8a exad-glass-effect-no exad-sticky-section-no\" data-id=\"98f4d8a\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-a3b911e exad-sticky-section-no exad-glass-effect-no elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"a3b911e\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><strong>Interview with Barbara Ciejek zd. Zaparucha<\/strong>, 10.03.2024 r.<br \/><b> Barbara Ciejek<\/b> Barbara Ciejek (BC): - I will be 94 years old in September. I was born in Podbielsk (photo 1).<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-1b339cf elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default exad-glass-effect-no exad-sticky-section-no\" data-id=\"1b339cf\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-1336b95 exad-glass-effect-no exad-sticky-section-no\" data-id=\"1336b95\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-065ab63 exad-sticky-section-no exad-glass-effect-no elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"065ab63\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<figure class=\"wp-caption\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href=\"http:\/\/zydzi-trzemeszno.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/418826729_389558363693343_6118683781885439957_n-rotated.jpg\" data-elementor-open-lightbox=\"yes\" data-elementor-lightbox-title=\"418826729_389558363693343_6118683781885439957_n\" data-elementor-lightbox-description=\". Dom rodzinny Zaparuch\u00f3w w Podbielsku; z archiwum prywatnego Barbary Ciejek.\" data-e-action-hash=\"#elementor-action%3Aaction%3Dlightbox%26settings%3DeyJpZCI6ODExMywidXJsIjoiaHR0cHM6XC9cL3p5ZHppLXRyemVtZXN6bm8ucGxcL3dwLWNvbnRlbnRcL3VwbG9hZHNcLzIwMjRcLzA0XC80MTg4MjY3MjlfMzg5NTU4MzYzNjkzMzQzXzYxMTg2ODM3ODE4ODU0Mzk5NTdfbi1yb3RhdGVkLmpwZyJ9\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/zydzi-trzemeszno.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/418826729_389558363693343_6118683781885439957_n-rotated.jpg\" title=\"418826729_389558363693343_6118683781885439957_n\" alt=\". Dom rodzinny Zaparuch\u00f3w w Podbielsku; z archiwum prywatnego Barbary Ciejek.\" loading=\"lazy\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<figcaption class=\"widget-image-caption wp-caption-text\">Photo 1. Zaparucha family home in Podbielsko; from Barbara Ciejek's private archive.<\/figcaption>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/figure>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-6a98ad2 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default exad-glass-effect-no exad-sticky-section-no\" data-id=\"6a98ad2\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-7a096e2 exad-glass-effect-no exad-sticky-section-no\" data-id=\"7a096e2\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-6381837 exad-sticky-section-no exad-glass-effect-no elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"6381837\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><b>Agnieszka Kostuch (AK): <\/b>- Did you meet Jews there during the war?<\/p><p><b>BC: <\/b>- Yes. They lived in a farm building, a cowshed in Bielsk; they had makeshift bedding there.<\/p><p><b>AK: <\/b>- Did you see them or hear about them?<\/p><p><b>BC: <\/b>- I saw them. Those Jews who were in Bielsk were not allowed to leave [the camp - A.K.]. They only went through Podbielsko somewhere to work<span class=\"footnote_referrer\"><a role=\"button\" tabindex=\"0\" onclick=\"footnote_moveToReference_8120_1('footnote_plugin_reference_8120_1_1');\" onkeypress=\"footnote_moveToReference_8120_1('footnote_plugin_reference_8120_1_1');\" ><sup id=\"footnote_plugin_tooltip_8120_1_1\" class=\"footnote_plugin_tooltip_text\">[1]<\/sup><\/a><span id=\"footnote_plugin_tooltip_text_8120_1_1\" class=\"footnote_tooltip\">The camp for Jews in Bielsko (German: Bilsko Lager) existed until August 30,1943 and was connected to the camp in Podbielsk (German: Annaberg) The prisoners' task was to build a road from Bielsko to Orchowo.<\/span><\/span><script type=\"text\/javascript\"> jQuery('#footnote_plugin_tooltip_8120_1_1').tooltip({ tip: '#footnote_plugin_tooltip_text_8120_1_1', tipClass: 'footnote_tooltip', effect: 'fade', predelay: 0, fadeInSpeed: 200, delay: 400, fadeOutSpeed: 200, position: 'top center', relative: true, offset: [-7, 0], });<\/script> . They sang: \"<a href=\"https:\/\/www.dailymotion.com\/video\/x36lxdl\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Hajli, hajlo, hajla!<\/a>\u201d <span class=\"footnote_referrer\"><a role=\"button\" tabindex=\"0\" onclick=\"footnote_moveToReference_8120_1('footnote_plugin_reference_8120_1_2');\" onkeypress=\"footnote_moveToReference_8120_1('footnote_plugin_reference_8120_1_2');\" ><sup id=\"footnote_plugin_tooltip_8120_1_2\" class=\"footnote_plugin_tooltip_text\">[2]<\/sup><\/a><span id=\"footnote_plugin_tooltip_text_8120_1_2\" class=\"footnote_tooltip\">Read more about this song here: pl.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Ein_Heller_und_ein_Batzen<\/span><\/span><script type=\"text\/javascript\"> jQuery('#footnote_plugin_tooltip_8120_1_2').tooltip({ tip: '#footnote_plugin_tooltip_text_8120_1_2', tipClass: 'footnote_tooltip', effect: 'fade', predelay: 0, fadeInSpeed: 200, delay: 400, fadeOutSpeed: 200, position: 'top center', relative: true, offset: [-7, 0], });<\/script>People fed them along the way. They would put pots with potatoes by the side of the road and they would secretly grab these potatoes (Photos 2-3).<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-5088819 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default exad-glass-effect-no exad-sticky-section-no\" data-id=\"5088819\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-7250f3c exad-glass-effect-no exad-sticky-section-no\" data-id=\"7250f3c\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-3720a48 exad-sticky-section-no exad-glass-effect-no elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"3720a48\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<figure class=\"wp-caption\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href=\"http:\/\/zydzi-trzemeszno.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/MAPKA-GMINY-ORCHOWO-DROGA-DO-OSTROWA-scaled.jpg\" data-elementor-open-lightbox=\"yes\" data-elementor-lightbox-title=\"MAPKA GMINY ORCHOWO - DROGA DO OSTROWA\" data-elementor-lightbox-description=\"Mapka z zaznaczon\u0105 na niebiesko lini\u0105 drogi, kt\u00f3r\u0105 budowali \u017bydzi; \u017ar\u00f3d\u0142o: Pawe\u0142 Dragan.\" data-e-action-hash=\"#elementor-action%3Aaction%3Dlightbox%26settings%3DeyJpZCI6ODEyMywidXJsIjoiaHR0cHM6XC9cL3p5ZHppLXRyemVtZXN6bm8ucGxcL3dwLWNvbnRlbnRcL3VwbG9hZHNcLzIwMjRcLzA0XC9NQVBLQS1HTUlOWS1PUkNIT1dPLURST0dBLURPLU9TVFJPV0Etc2NhbGVkLmpwZyJ9\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/zydzi-trzemeszno.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/MAPKA-GMINY-ORCHOWO-DROGA-DO-OSTROWA-scaled.jpg\" title=\"MAPKA GMINY ORCHOWO &#8211; DROGA DO OSTROWA\" alt=\"Mapka z zaznaczon\u0105 na niebiesko lini\u0105 drogi, kt\u00f3r\u0105 budowali \u017bydzi; \u017ar\u00f3d\u0142o: Pawe\u0142 Dragan.\" loading=\"lazy\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<figcaption class=\"widget-image-caption wp-caption-text\">Photo 2. Map showing the road the Jews built \u2013 the line marked in blue; source: Pawel Dragan.<\/figcaption>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/figure>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4a8e43a exad-sticky-section-no exad-glass-effect-no elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"4a8e43a\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<figure class=\"wp-caption\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href=\"http:\/\/zydzi-trzemeszno.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/drzewa-sadzone-zydowki-orchowo-droga-z-Orchowa-do-Podbielska-scaled.jpg\" data-elementor-open-lightbox=\"yes\" data-elementor-lightbox-title=\"drzewa-sadzone-zydowki-orchowo-droga-z Orchowa do Podbielska\" data-elementor-lightbox-description=\"Droga z Orchowa do Podbielska, widok obecny; fot. Pawe\u0142 Dragan\" data-e-action-hash=\"#elementor-action%3Aaction%3Dlightbox%26settings%3DeyJpZCI6ODEyNCwidXJsIjoiaHR0cHM6XC9cL3p5ZHppLXRyemVtZXN6bm8ucGxcL3dwLWNvbnRlbnRcL3VwbG9hZHNcLzIwMjRcLzA0XC9kcnpld2Etc2Fkem9uZS16eWRvd2tpLW9yY2hvd28tZHJvZ2Etei1PcmNob3dhLWRvLVBvZGJpZWxza2Etc2NhbGVkLmpwZyJ9\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/zydzi-trzemeszno.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/drzewa-sadzone-zydowki-orchowo-droga-z-Orchowa-do-Podbielska-scaled.jpg\" title=\"drzewa-sadzone-zydowki-orchowo-droga-z Orchowa do Podbielska\" alt=\"Droga z Orchowa do Podbielska, widok obecny; fot. Pawe\u0142 Dragan\" loading=\"lazy\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<figcaption class=\"widget-image-caption wp-caption-text\">Photo 3. The road from Orchow to Podbielsk, present view; photo: Pawel Dragan.<\/figcaption>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/figure>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-f4341fd elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default exad-glass-effect-no exad-sticky-section-no\" data-id=\"f4341fd\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-364898c exad-glass-effect-no exad-sticky-section-no\" data-id=\"364898c\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-ac452c9 exad-sticky-section-no exad-glass-effect-no elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"ac452c9\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Once one Jew came to us, in the evening. He put a ribbon and a box on his head<span class=\"footnote_referrer\"><a role=\"button\" tabindex=\"0\" onclick=\"footnote_moveToReference_8120_1('footnote_plugin_reference_8120_1_3');\" onkeypress=\"footnote_moveToReference_8120_1('footnote_plugin_reference_8120_1_3');\" ><sup id=\"footnote_plugin_tooltip_8120_1_3\" class=\"footnote_plugin_tooltip_text\">[3]<\/sup><\/a><span id=\"footnote_plugin_tooltip_text_8120_1_3\" class=\"footnote_tooltip\">Description of tefillin.<\/span><\/span><script type=\"text\/javascript\"> jQuery('#footnote_plugin_tooltip_8120_1_3').tooltip({ tip: '#footnote_plugin_tooltip_text_8120_1_3', tipClass: 'footnote_tooltip', effect: 'fade', predelay: 0, fadeInSpeed: 200, delay: 400, fadeOutSpeed: 200, position: 'top center', relative: true, offset: [-7, 0], });<\/script> and prayed like that. And we prepared food for him, whatever we had, potatoes, bread, so that he would share it with his friends. This happened a few more times. And then we were displaced to Kamionek and we had no contact with these Jews.<\/p><p><b>AK:<\/b> - How did it happen that you settled in Kamionek and not elsewehere?<\/p><p><b>BC:<\/b> - The Germans drove us off the farm, out of our warm home. They wanted to take us to the Governorate, somewhere in the Cracow region, I think. One lady stopped us as they were leading us to such a school to deport us. It wasn't just us, because there were other Poles as well. And they were settling Germans from Saxony.\nMy father [Jozef Zaparucha \u2013 A. K.] was a learned farmer and got to be a clerk to the Germans, on two estates - in Katno and Kamionek. He moved us from Podbielsk to Kamionek on March 8 [most likely 1941 - A.K.]. It was snowing at the time. In addition to my parents there were my brothers: Bernard, a year and a half older than me, and Edward, six years younger (Photo 4).<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-050ca88 exad-sticky-section-no exad-glass-effect-no elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"050ca88\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<figure class=\"wp-caption\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href=\"http:\/\/zydzi-trzemeszno.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/Floriana-Zaparucha-zd.-Cieslicka-Basia-i-Edward-Zaparuchowie-Kamionek.jpg\" data-elementor-open-lightbox=\"yes\" data-elementor-lightbox-title=\"Floriana Zaparucha zd. Cie\u015blicka, Basia i Edward Zaparuchowie, Kamionek\" data-elementor-lightbox-description=\"Od lewej: Floriana Zaparucha zd. Cie\u015blicka, Basia i Edward Zaparuchowie, Kamionek w czasie wojny; z archiwum prywatnego Barbary Ciejek.\" data-e-action-hash=\"#elementor-action%3Aaction%3Dlightbox%26settings%3DeyJpZCI6ODEyNiwidXJsIjoiaHR0cHM6XC9cL3p5ZHppLXRyemVtZXN6bm8ucGxcL3dwLWNvbnRlbnRcL3VwbG9hZHNcLzIwMjRcLzA0XC9GbG9yaWFuYS1aYXBhcnVjaGEtemQuLUNpZXNsaWNrYS1CYXNpYS1pLUVkd2FyZC1aYXBhcnVjaG93aWUtS2FtaW9uZWsuanBnIn0%3D\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/zydzi-trzemeszno.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/Floriana-Zaparucha-zd.-Cieslicka-Basia-i-Edward-Zaparuchowie-Kamionek.jpg\" title=\"Floriana Zaparucha zd. Cie\u015blicka, Basia i Edward Zaparuchowie, Kamionek\" alt=\"Od lewej: Floriana Zaparucha zd. Cie\u015blicka, Basia i Edward Zaparuchowie, Kamionek w czasie wojny; z archiwum prywatnego Barbary Ciejek.\" loading=\"lazy\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<figcaption class=\"widget-image-caption wp-caption-text\">Photo 4. From the left: Florianna Zaparucha n\u00e9e Cieslicka, Basia and Edward Zaparucha, in Kamionek during the war; from Barbara Ciejek's private archive.<\/figcaption>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/figure>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-7049862 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default exad-glass-effect-no exad-sticky-section-no\" data-id=\"7049862\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-59083b3 exad-glass-effect-no exad-sticky-section-no\" data-id=\"59083b3\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-b8a5730 exad-sticky-section-no exad-glass-effect-no elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"b8a5730\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tJerzy was born in 1944 in Kamionek. We moved to a small Polish farm. The owners had to move into half of the house, and they gave us the other half. It was only two rooms. We had neither a plate nor a spoon. But my father immediately scrounged up a bicycle. Since he had an agricultural education, he tried to get a job as an overseer in Katno. He knew German well. The Germans tried to Germanize us a bit. But father remained a Pole to the end. They combined the two estates in Katno and Kamionek, so that he worked on two. He put his brother-in-law, my mother's brother, in charge of such the estate in Kamionek. He himself had an office in Katno.\nMy mother [Floriana Zaparucha, n\u00e9e Cieslicka - A.K.] made jackets for the workers in Kamionek out of strings from unraveled sacks. In addition, she carried documents from the village leader from Kamionek to Katno. The two villages had one leader, and he lived next door to us in Kamionek.\nFather was afraid that we would be taken to Germany, because Polish children were being deported there. He hired my older brother Bernard to work as a gardener in Katno, but he did not perform his duties, he preferred horses. Therefore, father arranged for him to work on his sister's farm with horses in Procyn.\nThe Germans fed father only cauliflower, so after the war cauliflower would gross him out for the rest of his life. Nevertheless, we survived and when the Russians liberated us, we returned to Podbielsk. It was a big house and the Russians moved the horses into it, because it was winter. The whole house was neglected, so we renovated everything.\n<br><br>\n\n<b>AK:<\/b> - Do you remember Renia Wrzeszczynska<span class=\"footnote_referrer\"><a role=\"button\" tabindex=\"0\" onclick=\"footnote_moveToReference_8120_1('footnote_plugin_reference_8120_1_4');\" onkeypress=\"footnote_moveToReference_8120_1('footnote_plugin_reference_8120_1_4');\" ><sup id=\"footnote_plugin_tooltip_8120_1_4\" class=\"footnote_plugin_tooltip_text\">[4]<\/sup><\/a><span id=\"footnote_plugin_tooltip_text_8120_1_4\" class=\"footnote_tooltip\">O prowadzonym przez ni\u0105 w czasie wojny dzienniczku, losach rodziny Wrzeszczy\u0144skich pisa\u0142am w \u201ePrzewodniku Katolickim\u201d numer 13\/2022, dost\u0119p online:&nbsp;&#x2026; <span class=\"footnote_tooltip_continue\"  onclick=\"footnote_moveToReference_8120_1('footnote_plugin_reference_8120_1_4');\">Czytaj dalej<\/span><\/span><\/span><script type=\"text\/javascript\"> jQuery('#footnote_plugin_tooltip_8120_1_4').tooltip({ tip: '#footnote_plugin_tooltip_text_8120_1_4', tipClass: 'footnote_tooltip', effect: 'fade', predelay: 0, fadeInSpeed: 200, delay: 400, fadeOutSpeed: 200, position: 'top center', relative: true, offset: [-7, 0], });<\/script>?\n<br><br>\n<b> BC:<\/b> - Yes. My father took in a gardener Antoniewicz, who had a niece, and it was Renia. He was afraid that she would be deported to Germany. Her father had already been taken [to the Mauthausen-Gusen camp - A.K.]. She was also afraid <span class=\"footnote_referrer\"><a role=\"button\" tabindex=\"0\" onclick=\"footnote_moveToReference_8120_1('footnote_plugin_reference_8120_1_5');\" onkeypress=\"footnote_moveToReference_8120_1('footnote_plugin_reference_8120_1_5');\" ><sup id=\"footnote_plugin_tooltip_8120_1_5\" class=\"footnote_plugin_tooltip_text\">[5]<\/sup><\/a><span id=\"footnote_plugin_tooltip_text_8120_1_5\" class=\"footnote_tooltip\">Children over the age of 13 were forced to work for the Germans. Renia moved in with the Zaparuchas in March 1942.<\/span><\/span><script type=\"text\/javascript\"> jQuery('#footnote_plugin_tooltip_8120_1_5').tooltip({ tip: '#footnote_plugin_tooltip_text_8120_1_5', tipClass: 'footnote_tooltip', effect: 'fade', predelay: 0, fadeInSpeed: 200, delay: 400, fadeOutSpeed: 200, position: 'top center', relative: true, offset: [-7, 0], });<\/script>He wanted to take her to live with him, because he had made some living quarters for himself in Katno, but he couldn't, so he placed her in our home. Renia lived with us for maybe a year. She slept in one bed with my mother. There were four of us children in one room and only two beds. Then this uncle took her to live with him.<br><br>\n<b> AK:<\/b> - According to Renia's memoirs, her family - a mother with nine children - survived the war thanks to his help.<br><br>\n<b> BC: <\/b>- They [Jozef Zaparucha and Hieronim Antoniewicz - A.K.] stole a little from the farm occupied by a German woman in Katno. It was a large estate, there was a bunch of cattle, so sometimes they stole cream. They seasoned their lives a bit, because there was great poverty.<br><br>\n<b> AK:<\/b> - Renia recalled that you and she walked to work from Kamionek to Katno. You passed the building of the former school (Photo 5), where the Germans kept Jewish women. They were used to work in Notec. Do you remember them?\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-a16d0fc elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default exad-glass-effect-no exad-sticky-section-no\" data-id=\"a16d0fc\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-df061b6 exad-glass-effect-no exad-sticky-section-no\" data-id=\"df061b6\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-bad2819 exad-sticky-section-no exad-glass-effect-no elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"bad2819\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<figure class=\"wp-caption\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href=\"http:\/\/zydzi-trzemeszno.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/435616923_1114323773146694_6625968624884117748_n.jpg\" data-elementor-open-lightbox=\"yes\" data-elementor-lightbox-title=\"435616923_1114323773146694_6625968624884117748_n\" data-elementor-lightbox-description=\"Budynek dawnej szko\u0142y w Kamionku\" data-e-action-hash=\"#elementor-action%3Aaction%3Dlightbox%26settings%3DeyJpZCI6ODEyNywidXJsIjoiaHR0cHM6XC9cL3p5ZHppLXRyemVtZXN6bm8ucGxcL3dwLWNvbnRlbnRcL3VwbG9hZHNcLzIwMjRcLzA0XC80MzU2MTY5MjNfMTExNDMyMzc3MzE0NjY5NF82NjI1OTY4NjI0ODg0MTE3NzQ4X24uanBnIn0%3D\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/zydzi-trzemeszno.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/435616923_1114323773146694_6625968624884117748_n.jpg\" title=\"435616923_1114323773146694_6625968624884117748_n\" alt=\"Budynek dawnej szko\u0142y w Kamionku\" loading=\"lazy\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<figcaption class=\"widget-image-caption wp-caption-text\">Photo 5. The building of the former school in Kamionek; source: Pawel Dragan.<\/figcaption>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/figure>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-07a6576 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default exad-glass-effect-no exad-sticky-section-no\" data-id=\"07a6576\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-e58a54c exad-glass-effect-no exad-sticky-section-no\" data-id=\"e58a54c\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-ef6c835 exad-sticky-section-no exad-glass-effect-no elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"ef6c835\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><strong>BC<\/strong>- Yes, they used to make fascines on that river.<\/p><p><strong>AK<\/strong>- Where did you see them?<\/p><p><strong>BC<\/strong>- They could sometimes go out [of the school building - A.K.]. They would come to our house, bring fish from that river, we would fry them and they would eat. We didn't have much food ourselves, but when they came, they ate a little. They only came to our house. They spoke Polish.<\/p><p><strong>AK<\/strong>- Did they say where they came from?<\/p><p><strong>BC<\/strong>- I don't remember.<\/p><p><strong>AK<\/strong>- Renia remembered that they had ulcers on their legs from standing in the river. What condition were they in when they came to you?<\/p><p><strong>BC<\/strong>- They were healthy. Mom used to pack food for them.<\/p><p><strong>AK<\/strong>- So the parents helped completely selflessly.<\/p><p><strong>BC<\/strong>- Well, sure. We shared what we had. Mom was a person who helped everyone (Photo 6).<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-b7818f0 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default exad-glass-effect-no exad-sticky-section-no\" data-id=\"b7818f0\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-1b1939a exad-glass-effect-no exad-sticky-section-no\" data-id=\"1b1939a\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-338caf3 exad-sticky-section-no exad-glass-effect-no elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"338caf3\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<figure class=\"wp-caption\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href=\"http:\/\/zydzi-trzemeszno.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/Floriana-Zaparucha-z-archiwum-prywatnego-Barbary-Ciejek-rotated.jpg\" data-elementor-open-lightbox=\"yes\" data-elementor-lightbox-title=\"Floriana Zaparucha; z archiwum prywatnego Barbary Ciejek\" data-elementor-lightbox-description=\"Floriana Zaparucha; z archiwum prywatnego Barbary Ciejek\" data-e-action-hash=\"#elementor-action%3Aaction%3Dlightbox%26settings%3DeyJpZCI6ODEyOCwidXJsIjoiaHR0cHM6XC9cL3p5ZHppLXRyemVtZXN6bm8ucGxcL3dwLWNvbnRlbnRcL3VwbG9hZHNcLzIwMjRcLzA0XC9GbG9yaWFuYS1aYXBhcnVjaGEtei1hcmNoaXd1bS1wcnl3YXRuZWdvLUJhcmJhcnktQ2llamVrLXJvdGF0ZWQuanBnIn0%3D\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/zydzi-trzemeszno.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/Floriana-Zaparucha-z-archiwum-prywatnego-Barbary-Ciejek-rotated.jpg\" title=\"Floriana Zaparucha; z archiwum prywatnego Barbary Ciejek\" alt=\"Floriana Zaparucha; z archiwum prywatnego Barbary Ciejek\" loading=\"lazy\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<figcaption class=\"widget-image-caption wp-caption-text\">Photo 6. Florianna Zaparucha; from Barbara Ciejek's private archive.<\/figcaption>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/figure>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-f9e7be6 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default exad-glass-effect-no exad-sticky-section-no\" data-id=\"f9e7be6\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-19ede44 exad-glass-effect-no exad-sticky-section-no\" data-id=\"19ede44\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-027353f exad-sticky-section-no exad-glass-effect-no elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"027353f\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tWe would appreciate you sharing any information about this story and sharing the conversation further. We are still investigating this story. Virtually unknown until now.\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-773411e exad-sticky-section-no exad-glass-effect-no elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"773411e\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>************<\/p><p>Many thanks to Mr. Pawel Dragan for his help in finding out the truth and the photographs he took, and to Kasia Sudaj for her help in getting to the meeting with Ms. Basia and taking photo documentation.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"speaker-mute footnotes_reference_container\"> <div class=\"footnote_container_prepare\"><p><span role=\"button\" tabindex=\"0\" class=\"footnote_reference_container_label pointer\" onclick=\"footnote_expand_collapse_reference_container_8120_1();\">Przypisy<\/span><span role=\"button\" tabindex=\"0\" class=\"footnote_reference_container_collapse_button\" style=\"display: none;\" onclick=\"footnote_expand_collapse_reference_container_8120_1();\">[<a id=\"footnote_reference_container_collapse_button_8120_1\">+<\/a>]<\/span><\/p><\/div> <div id=\"footnote_references_container_8120_1\" style=\"\"><table class=\"footnotes_table footnote-reference-container\"><caption class=\"accessibility\">Przypisy<\/caption> <tbody> \r\n\r\n<tr class=\"footnotes_plugin_reference_row\"> <th scope=\"row\" class=\"footnote_plugin_index_combi pointer\"  onclick=\"footnote_moveToAnchor_8120_1('footnote_plugin_tooltip_8120_1_1');\"><a id=\"footnote_plugin_reference_8120_1_1\" class=\"footnote_backlink\"><span class=\"footnote_index_arrow\">&#8593;<\/span>1<\/a><\/th> <td class=\"footnote_plugin_text\">The camp for Jews in Bielsko (German: Bilsko Lager) existed until August 30,1943 and was connected to the camp in Podbielsk (German: Annaberg) The prisoners' task was to build a road from Bielsko to Orchowo.<\/td><\/tr>\r\n\r\n<tr class=\"footnotes_plugin_reference_row\"> <th scope=\"row\" class=\"footnote_plugin_index_combi pointer\"  onclick=\"footnote_moveToAnchor_8120_1('footnote_plugin_tooltip_8120_1_2');\"><a id=\"footnote_plugin_reference_8120_1_2\" class=\"footnote_backlink\"><span class=\"footnote_index_arrow\">&#8593;<\/span>2<\/a><\/th> <td class=\"footnote_plugin_text\">Read more about this song here: pl.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Ein_Heller_und_ein_Batzen<\/td><\/tr>\r\n\r\n<tr class=\"footnotes_plugin_reference_row\"> <th scope=\"row\" class=\"footnote_plugin_index_combi pointer\"  onclick=\"footnote_moveToAnchor_8120_1('footnote_plugin_tooltip_8120_1_3');\"><a id=\"footnote_plugin_reference_8120_1_3\" class=\"footnote_backlink\"><span class=\"footnote_index_arrow\">&#8593;<\/span>3<\/a><\/th> <td class=\"footnote_plugin_text\">Description of tefillin.<\/td><\/tr>\r\n\r\n<tr class=\"footnotes_plugin_reference_row\"> <th scope=\"row\" class=\"footnote_plugin_index_combi pointer\"  onclick=\"footnote_moveToAnchor_8120_1('footnote_plugin_tooltip_8120_1_4');\"><a id=\"footnote_plugin_reference_8120_1_4\" class=\"footnote_backlink\"><span class=\"footnote_index_arrow\">&#8593;<\/span>4<\/a><\/th> <td class=\"footnote_plugin_text\">I wrote about the diary she kept during the war, the fate of the Wrzeszczynski family, in \"Przewodnik Katolicki\" issue 13\/2022, accessed online: <span class=\"footnote_url_wrap\">https:\/\/www.przewodnik-katolicki.pl\/Archiwum\/2022\/Przewodnik-Katolicki-13-2022\/kultura-i-czas-wolny\/Sila-swiadectwa-dziecka<\/span> <\/td><\/tr>\r\n\r\n<tr class=\"footnotes_plugin_reference_row\"> <th scope=\"row\" class=\"footnote_plugin_index_combi pointer\"  onclick=\"footnote_moveToAnchor_8120_1('footnote_plugin_tooltip_8120_1_5');\"><a id=\"footnote_plugin_reference_8120_1_5\" class=\"footnote_backlink\"><span class=\"footnote_index_arrow\">&#8593;<\/span>5<\/a><\/th> <td class=\"footnote_plugin_text\">Children over the age of 13 were forced to work for the Germans. 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